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This Game Can Only Run On _____...
In this race of consoles, it seems that we are hearing more and more often the following phrase: "Platform 'X' wouldn't not be able to handle Game 'X'." Surely I am not the only person who is sick of hearing this. So, I set out to find some examples of this phrase--and how to prove them wrong.
PLAYSTATION 3
I started with PS3 games. Recently we heard Sucker Punch stating that inFAMOUS was only possible because of the power of the PS3. Guerrilla Games said the same about Killzone 2 because of their deferred rendering. And Uncharted 2 (and its predecessor) are claiming the same and that the updated engine uses 100% of the power of the Cell Broadband Engine. Even the folks at Media Molecule said that Little Big Planet would be "very different" on the 360. We can only assume that those differences would be negative since they had previously boasted that the PS3's power allowed them to do crazy things with their physics engine.
And what's funny is that all of these games seem to support their claims. Little Big Planet is an experience you can't find anywhere else--does this mean it's not possible anywhere else? Uncharted 2 is definitely the best looking 3rd person shooter to date--is this due to the power of the Cell? Killzone 2 has blown away every other console shooter ever created--is the PS3 the only console that can handle this level of rendering? I'm not quite as impressed by inFAMOUS, but it does have more going on--and runs better--than GTA4, so does this mean that the 360 is incapable of delivering the same experience?
Whatever your opinion, my experience with these games is that they tend to back their claims. They all do something amazing. Sure, maybe the game could be played on another system, but would it really be the same experience?
Xbox 360
And then I started looking for instances of 360 developers saying the same thing. Honestly, I couldn't find any. Does this mean that Microsoft is not so quick to make outlandish claims? Does this mean that Microsoft does not have a game that can't be ported to deliver an equal experience on the PS3? The funny thing was that I was so desperate to find quotes concerning this, that I Googled terms like "will only run on 360" and the like. But all I came up with were people complaining that such and such game crashed their console and will no longer run. Strange.
I started with the 360 by looking at some popular exclusives. The first three that sprung to mind were Gears of War, Mass Effect and Halo 3. Now we all know that Halo 3 could easily be run on the PS3, so that is a clear answer. But what about the more prestigious graphics of Gears (1 and 2) and Mass Effect? Well, both of those games use Unreal Engine 3, which is also available (with all features intact) on the PS3. So, it is safe to assume that both franchises could be run on the PS3 with an equal gaming experience. But what about Fable 2? Fable 2 offers large environments and pretty sharp graphics. But, after seeing Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 in motion, is there really any way that Fable 2 could NOT run on the PS3?
Honestly, that was all I could come up with. Microsoft just has not invested in games that really push its console. Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps Microsoft just plays it safe as a business move. Less risk and financial output means more money. You can't really argue with that from a logical standpoint. But what happens to gaming when that's all your console cares about?
PC
I wasn't going to include this because the PC is so superior to gaming consoles. But I just couldn't resist talking about Crysis... See, a couple years ago there was rumor that Crysis was coming to consoles. But Crytek quickly gunned down that idea by saying something to the likes of, "Crysis could never run on a console." And PC gamers everywhere said, "Tell 'em how it is, baby!" But at GDC this year, Crytek stuck their foot in their mouth by debuting CryEngine3--an engine superior to CryEngine2. You guessed it, CE3 runs on consoles, complete with god rays and realistic water. So the question of whether or not someone could play Crysis on PS3 or 360 and get the same experience as the PC version is YES.
And so the argument becomes this: If Crysis can run on the 360, then anything the PS3 has can be run on 360, also. Is that true? After all, Crysis really offers nothing besides graphics. The animations aren't as dynamic as in Killzone 2, the physics not as heavy as LBP, and the presentation not as satisfying as Uncharted 2.
WTF?
So what's the deal, then? If Microsoft refuses to push their hardware, what incentive does that give 360 owners to stay with the Microsoft brand? Two years ago, 360 fanboys (myself included) would argue that system selection was "all about the games". Is that still true today? After all, the PS3 keeps moving forward, pushing innovation and technology. With Heavy Rain and God of War 3 poised to knock our socks off at E3, what will it take from Microsoft to keep a gamer's interest? They can't release a new console because it would cost more than Sony's. They could show off some more Halo stuff, but how unique is that?
I can't help but feel that Microsoft is starting to grow stale--a problem that even Live can't overcome. But Sony keeps delivering fresh, new ideas. Usually, this is a good thing, because it drives each company to try harder than the other...but that's not happening here.
I can't wait to get to E3 and see what Microsoft has to offer. I hope they've got an ace hidden somewhere.
NOTE:
Thanks everyone for the comments! There's a comment on here that mentions CryEngine3 not being as powerful as CryEngine2. The developers at Crytek mentioned that CE3 is as powerful because they refined a number of mistakes made with CE2. You can even compare the feature sets yourself. Here's the link to CE3. Remember, the argument here is that you can have the same experience on another platform. (And I don't count engine demonstrations...I'm talking real gameplay here.)
45 comments
Comment from: Grave_Harry [Visitor] · http://harryocedy.freewebpage.org/
Haha, 360 has no games ;).
Uncharted:Drakes Fortune>GOW 1 and 2 graphics.
(But I must say GOW has better gameplay).
And inFamous isn't out yet, how can you not be impressed with it? Lol.
Good article.
Uncharted:Drakes Fortune>GOW 1 and 2 graphics.
(But I must say GOW has better gameplay).
And inFamous isn't out yet, how can you not be impressed with it? Lol.
Good article.
05/16/09 @ 14:31
Comment from: tk [Visitor]
Your right. Xbox360 makes great games and so does PS3. But when it comes to graphics the PS3 wins (I own just a 360).
On one hand you have Microsoft that brings out great games only on the 360 with very good graphics. On the other hand they bring out many games (movie based games, children games) just to make money. I've also heard the Xbox360 doesn't use its processor to the fullest. GTA4 and RE5 look amazing but I always feel those games and many more could look better.
Last, when I first saw COD2 on the Xbox360 I thought to myself "this has the best graphics ever!". Then I saw MGS4, said the same thing. And then when I saw Crysis for the PC I also said the same thing. Now I really haven't seen a game for the 360 that makes me think that. Maybe Microsoft will start to consider graphics to be of high importance in the future.
On one hand you have Microsoft that brings out great games only on the 360 with very good graphics. On the other hand they bring out many games (movie based games, children games) just to make money. I've also heard the Xbox360 doesn't use its processor to the fullest. GTA4 and RE5 look amazing but I always feel those games and many more could look better.
Last, when I first saw COD2 on the Xbox360 I thought to myself "this has the best graphics ever!". Then I saw MGS4, said the same thing. And then when I saw Crysis for the PC I also said the same thing. Now I really haven't seen a game for the 360 that makes me think that. Maybe Microsoft will start to consider graphics to be of high importance in the future.
05/16/09 @ 14:38
Comment from: george [Visitor]
Good article, I have a 360 and feel the same way. DLC will not replace interest in real good 1st hand exclusive games. Im beginning to think that PS3 may well be the best way to go. Some of the Sony exlusives are just jaw dropping.
05/16/09 @ 14:46
Comment from: Nate [Visitor]
I own all 3 and coming from the PC only side then investing in a PS3 (first game Uncharted), I think you are on to something. I only bought the 360 because of Gears 2, after I finished the single player I stopped playing. I do not like the multiplayer side of it and whatever is on the 360 I can play on my PC and have a better experience.
Right now my PS3 gets all the play time. From MGS4 to Killzone 2. The occasional Socom and LBP. I love the exclusives PS3 has and have coming.
Right now my PS3 gets all the play time. From MGS4 to Killzone 2. The occasional Socom and LBP. I love the exclusives PS3 has and have coming.
05/16/09 @ 15:09
Comment from: edward [Visitor]
Great article, I completely agree. The ps3 has the edge when it comes to graphics. the technology in the ps3 is just so much more powerful than the 360's, there's really no comparison.
05/16/09 @ 15:12
Comment from: Chris [Visitor] · http://www.nextgenboards.com
Great article. Stating many facts. Xbox was good when it was released for its price and games but thats what your going to get for that price. PS3 is really pushing itself now and im finally glad to see that sonys going for it....
05/16/09 @ 15:24
Comment from: Fred [Visitor]
you are wrong, Cry engine 3 is not as superior as you said, cry engine 3 it's Cry engine 2 adapted for extended support on consoles. cryE3 it's not a step further on cryE2, AND CRYSIS it's not possible on "CONSOLES", Cevat Yerli in it's own words told that the limiting factor on that was RAM memory. running crysis needs at leats 1 GB of dedicaed system ram for running level AI and game logic over Crysis vast levels. so your article is totally wrong /\/008
05/16/09 @ 15:31
Comment from: user1337 [Visitor]
Nice article. The only issue I have with the 360 is that 90% of its so called exclusive games are all available on the pc (for cheaper prices and they look better on the pc!). So for anyone who has a good pc there really is no point in getting a 360 (unless you want to play just the 10% of the games).
05/16/09 @ 15:50
Comment from: edgar [Visitor]
I think there are a number of possible reasons why XBox 360 games don't look as good as some of the ps3 games. First off 2007 and 2008 were banner years for xbox 360 games, and it's possible that it's taking a little bit of time for ms to get more projects in the schute. It's also possible that the ps3 just has more graphics capability, but unfortunately that capabality comes with a heavy price. The ps3 is vastly more difficult to develop for, that's why there are only around 4 or 5 amazing looking games and each one took 3 - 5 years to develop. The cell processors are also part of the reason why the PS3 cost so much, which brings me to my next point. The reason ms developers don't claim their games can't run on a competing console is most likely because they don't have an incredibly high price tag to justify. I think the XBox 360 is actually in a really good position. They have a nice console at a fantastic price, and a development model that allows developers to focus on the gameplay aspects of a game; instead of focusing on how to synchronize multiple threads. Honestly when was the last time you ever heard anyone complain about gow2's graphics?
05/16/09 @ 15:57
Comment from: Taco [Visitor]
"After all, Crysis really offers nothing besides graphics. The animations aren't as dynamic as in Killzone 2, the physics not as heavy as LBP, and the presentation not as satisfying as Uncharted 2."
You might want to check that over again.
With regards to physics...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-y_eCsYExk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JHVxOgUyDo
The animation can be seen near the end of this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6fLHbniXCs
And as for Uncharted having better presentation than Crysis? Well, the videos speak for themselves...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBw2ttRCv0&fmt=22
Research is essential before making such bold claims dude.
You might want to check that over again.
With regards to physics...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-y_eCsYExk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JHVxOgUyDo
The animation can be seen near the end of this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6fLHbniXCs
And as for Uncharted having better presentation than Crysis? Well, the videos speak for themselves...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBw2ttRCv0&fmt=22
Research is essential before making such bold claims dude.
05/16/09 @ 16:00
Comment from: Dago [Visitor]
Very good article. I feel that if MS does not show anything short of spectacular @ e3 more people over the summer will pay for a PS3 just for the experience of playing great games they can't get anywhere else. Like Nate said, all that is offered on the 360 can be played on PC. And the PC version may be more enjoyable.
05/16/09 @ 16:04
Comment from: Anonan [Visitor]
I really like this article.
I must admit, I'm a bit of a sony fanboy, but it's because they do things that looks stupid to others, until it's purpose is revealed. And if they do something stupid, they listen to people and learn from it.
Microsoft still hasn't done that
:D
I must admit, I'm a bit of a sony fanboy, but it's because they do things that looks stupid to others, until it's purpose is revealed. And if they do something stupid, they listen to people and learn from it.
Microsoft still hasn't done that
:D
05/16/09 @ 16:13
Comment from: light_alex [Visitor] 
Very good article. I understand all the points you made and for once there hasn't been a stream of fanboy comments after an article says the ps3 is better. I honestly only own a ps3 (also a wii but that doesn't count). I enjoy my ps3 exclusives more such as uncharted and mgs 4 and LBP, but not killzone 2 (very boring game), while on the 360, I've only enjoy Gears 2 and Halo 3 (but the maps were badly designed). Favorite game of all time is MGS4 but I'm looking forward to MAG (push things in another direction), Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, God Of War III and Uncharted 2 (gears 2 multiplayer with uncharted gameplay like stealth is going to be amazing). Overall I'm very happy with my purchase of a ps3. Also recently, a lot of my friends (who own 360s) have been buying ps3s. Very interesting, to me it shows a shift in interest, but who knows, right?
05/16/09 @ 16:19
Comment from: steve [Visitor]
I just wish developers especially those from MGS would invest time and effort in the 360 processor which is quite powerful and designed like the GPU for games instead of added in to push a chip or as a last minute thing, to use it to its limits like on the ps3.
Using the unreal engine is good but the 360 needs completely new game engines designed for it to show what it can do otherwise people will continue to believe the ps3 is leaps and bounds above it.
How many games actually use all 3 cores? The cores themselves each have 2 threads but no-one is bothering to use them and understand the architecture like they have with the ps3.
Instead it seems to be, make the game quickly then move onto the sequel.
At least the ps3 has got first party development methods right.
Using the unreal engine is good but the 360 needs completely new game engines designed for it to show what it can do otherwise people will continue to believe the ps3 is leaps and bounds above it.
How many games actually use all 3 cores? The cores themselves each have 2 threads but no-one is bothering to use them and understand the architecture like they have with the ps3.
Instead it seems to be, make the game quickly then move onto the sequel.
At least the ps3 has got first party development methods right.
05/16/09 @ 16:27
Comment from: deadlybrand [Visitor]
Its true the PS3 has better graphics on exclusives!but no lets compare framerates an smooth gameplay,and in this part the XBOX 360 haves the edge by far!even PS3 exclusives like KZ2,MGS4 and infamous have big framerate dips,and if you compare multiplats just watch the latest RE5 and the edge the 360 has!
05/16/09 @ 17:07
Comment from: Me [Visitor]
No mention of the system with the suckiest graphics, the wii? And it makes the most money of all of them. We live in strange times.
05/16/09 @ 17:22
Comment from: Redlogic [Visitor]
Personally, I have owned a 360 since December 2006. I am awaiting the arrival of my ps3 this Monday, and I can't wait. I love my 360, and I think a large part of its appeal is it feels more "personal" than any other system I have owned. The ps3 exclusives are just amazing, and by my eyes (im no technology wiz either)look superior. I'm glad to own (soon) both systems cause i'll have a taste of everything. We the gamer win!!
05/16/09 @ 17:54
Comment from: LOL [Visitor]
oh my god - a site full of dillusional ps3 fan boys. Get a grip, enjoy what you had and don't feel the need to slag of the competition because your jealous you wasted your money on a ps3. Competition ensures the quality remains in this market, it's healthy. Think you all need to go play your ps3's, if its so good you would not be wasting your time slagging others off. Maybe you should go squeeze a few spots, have a hand shandy and play with your godly ps3. I own all and enjoy each for there own merits.
05/16/09 @ 17:56
Comment from: wilson [Visitor]
Great article. The PS3's exclusive games really do look and play amazing. Every time I see a PS3 game picture, video, it just leaves me breathless.
05/16/09 @ 18:13
Comment from: dcbronco [Visitor]
If MGS4 comes to 360, all of these stupid arguments need to go away. Sony claimed a lot of things. So far, they have failed to deliver. And since IBM made both the Cell and the Xenon, and they say they are even. I trust the guys who made the chip. Not some guys trying to drum up support for their game.
05/16/09 @ 20:06
Comment from: phos [Visitor]
@ Taco
You are right, Cry Engine 2 and 3 have amazing physics and such, but you forgot one thing. Those physics vids shown aren't ingame. There is a way to render a scene to make sure it gets as good of a quality video as possible. It is a really beautiful/powerful engine, but as of right now, it seems like this $400 console has out-powered most gaming PC's.
You are right, Cry Engine 2 and 3 have amazing physics and such, but you forgot one thing. Those physics vids shown aren't ingame. There is a way to render a scene to make sure it gets as good of a quality video as possible. It is a really beautiful/powerful engine, but as of right now, it seems like this $400 console has out-powered most gaming PC's.
05/16/09 @ 21:07
Comment from: AVItalia [Visitor]
Look, PS3 is completely superior. All my friends that have a 360 only play Halo, COD and Gears...they have no good game collections and COD is on the PS3 too! Why bother gettong a piece of crap like the 360, to hell with it!
05/16/09 @ 21:07
Comment from: phos [Visitor]
@ dcbronco
The Xenon PPU (Power Processing Unit) and Cell PPU (NOT INCLUDING SPE's) are alike..yes. Very a like, but the main difference is that Xenon uses 3 PPU's @ 3.4 ghz with dual threading, Cell uses 1 PPU directly connected to 8 SPE's (Synergistic Processing Engine..or somethin like that) @ 3.4ghz each single threaded. Even though Dual Threading is a lot better, so far, the Cell has outperformed the Xenon in everything. The Cell is even capable of doing ray tracing BY ITSELF!!
Also, what exactly has Sony not deliver in terms of Claims? They have the best graphics so far. The highest rated/most exclusives, best entertainment device. What have they NOT delivered on?
The Xenon PPU (Power Processing Unit) and Cell PPU (NOT INCLUDING SPE's) are alike..yes. Very a like, but the main difference is that Xenon uses 3 PPU's @ 3.4 ghz with dual threading, Cell uses 1 PPU directly connected to 8 SPE's (Synergistic Processing Engine..or somethin like that) @ 3.4ghz each single threaded. Even though Dual Threading is a lot better, so far, the Cell has outperformed the Xenon in everything. The Cell is even capable of doing ray tracing BY ITSELF!!
Also, what exactly has Sony not deliver in terms of Claims? They have the best graphics so far. The highest rated/most exclusives, best entertainment device. What have they NOT delivered on?
05/16/09 @ 21:12
Comment from: WWII [Visitor]
deadlybrand [Visitor]: "PS3 exclusives like KZ2,MGS4 and infamous have big framerate dips..."
- If you have said Uncharted then that would be true but framerate issues in Killzone 2 and MGS4? -Bullsh1t!
- If you have said Uncharted then that would be true but framerate issues in Killzone 2 and MGS4? -Bullsh1t!
05/16/09 @ 21:18
Comment from: RJ [Visitor]
dcbronco is right there
The lead designer of both the CELL and the XENON chip from IBM said they are alike but different methods are used.
If IBM is saying they are alike
and 360 has a better graphics card, and also has the ability to share the 512mb RAM across the CPU and GPU doesnt this mean that 360 is more powerful?
Uncharted is a great game i love it but i still think u can get this power on 360
the lead developer on Halo 3 said Killzone 2 was possible on 360 and you know why?
Because Killzone 2 doesn't even have a natural light processor which explains why all levels are dark, it can't even process shadows, they are just drawn on.
The lead designer of both the CELL and the XENON chip from IBM said they are alike but different methods are used.
If IBM is saying they are alike
and 360 has a better graphics card, and also has the ability to share the 512mb RAM across the CPU and GPU doesnt this mean that 360 is more powerful?
Uncharted is a great game i love it but i still think u can get this power on 360
the lead developer on Halo 3 said Killzone 2 was possible on 360 and you know why?
Because Killzone 2 doesn't even have a natural light processor which explains why all levels are dark, it can't even process shadows, they are just drawn on.
05/16/09 @ 21:29
Comment from: phos [Visitor]
@ RJ
No offense, but Bungie saying KZ2 is possible on 360 is pretty stupid. They have never worked on the KZ2 engine, nor on the PS3, so how can they possibly know.
Also, I don't know what you mean by "doesn't even have a natural light processor", but besides the point, the engine doesn't draw shadows what so ever. It draws light.
Here is a link, explaining how the engine works on the Cell. It's oriented towards techies, but is still understandable.
http://www.guerrilla-games.com/publications/dr_kz2_rsx_dev07.pdf
No offense, but Bungie saying KZ2 is possible on 360 is pretty stupid. They have never worked on the KZ2 engine, nor on the PS3, so how can they possibly know.
Also, I don't know what you mean by "doesn't even have a natural light processor", but besides the point, the engine doesn't draw shadows what so ever. It draws light.
Here is a link, explaining how the engine works on the Cell. It's oriented towards techies, but is still understandable.
http://www.guerrilla-games.com/publications/dr_kz2_rsx_dev07.pdf
05/16/09 @ 21:56
Comment from: mikey mart [Visitor]
I know one thing, the ps3 is a good quality car that runs quiet and hardly ever breaks down and can run for a very lomg time. it may cost a little more. but it doesn't waste my time. peoples time is money. therefore if you don't work much, maybe you should by a 360, but if you work alot and need a quiet relaxing good quality time the ps3 will be a good friend to you in the end.
mikey
mikey
05/16/09 @ 22:31
Comment from: OliverGracie [Visitor]
The crytek 3 engine is a downgraded crytek 2 engine tailored for consoles. The more you know.........
05/16/09 @ 22:36
Comment from: the brain [Visitor] · http://knoledge.com
ps3s main advantage is blueray grow up people just cause you dont own something dont knock it come on if you could own a ferrari instead of a chevy wouldnt you there is a huge difference between blueray and crappy old dvds memory!!! hello!!! wake up ps3 is the true next gen system xboxlive is awesome but not the system pcs a whole nother world!!!
05/17/09 @ 00:14
Comment from: wtf...? [Visitor]
"the physics not as heavy as LB"
you might want to change that.
I'm a ps3 owner, (well 360 too, but dont use it)... but seriously? check that quote. PELASE
you might want to change that.
I'm a ps3 owner, (well 360 too, but dont use it)... but seriously? check that quote. PELASE
05/17/09 @ 01:06
Comment from: McMadden [Visitor]
I find it ironic that the 360 fanboys who have since day one said "Developers love the 360 cause it's so easy to program for." Henceforth meaning the games will be better. And to the ones that said the processors are the same, then answer me this. With a one year headstart, and easier to program for, then why haven't the developers made a game to date that surpasses Killzone or Uncaharted? The question to ask is why hasn't MicroSoft pushed the technology? Could it be that it's already at it's max potential? Seems Sony is having the last laugh, and thanks to Blu-Ray, you know that slow spinning behemoth which allows gaming textures to be streamed in all their glory, PS3 potential is here now!
Try dat on-ah DVD9! >:^p
Try dat on-ah DVD9! >:^p
05/17/09 @ 02:17
Comment from: Fred [Visitor]
ps3 it's a great piece of hardware, but let's not get confused, playing at native 1280x720p upscaled to 1080p it's not the same as playing at native 1080p.
so pc's still rule and will ever rule. imagin a console industry without the research made on pc's?. there would be a very slow developement on the hardware side.
and now my fatality, PS3 will die alone, the next PlayStation will not be backwards compatible because the architecture complexity of cell. it would be too risky keep going further on non standard architectures.
on the other hand xbox 360 it's very close to pc architecture, and the next xbox will only need some kind of hardware upgrade over the existing architecture. making the costs of developement for pc and xbox a single product. eventually ps3 will be fighting against pc and xbox. it's a lost battle.
so pc's still rule and will ever rule. imagin a console industry without the research made on pc's?. there would be a very slow developement on the hardware side.
and now my fatality, PS3 will die alone, the next PlayStation will not be backwards compatible because the architecture complexity of cell. it would be too risky keep going further on non standard architectures.
on the other hand xbox 360 it's very close to pc architecture, and the next xbox will only need some kind of hardware upgrade over the existing architecture. making the costs of developement for pc and xbox a single product. eventually ps3 will be fighting against pc and xbox. it's a lost battle.
05/17/09 @ 02:38
Comment from: Thomas Brown [Visitor] · http://esportseurope.com
I own both PS3 + Xbox 360 (2 xbox's). Xbox may not have the best graphics, but it's hardly noticeable, if you have a good game with decent graphics, e.g. Gears of War 2 you won't care if MGS4 has better, cause it doesn't have the game play.
It's not all about graphics, it's about the game play, I prefer Xbox 360 games over PS3 due to many reasons.
PS3 controller sucks,
PS3 Online sucks,
PS3 Trophies make little sense (Achievements for the win much easier to understand) btw, can compare trophies?
PS3 may have slightly better graphics, only slightly. But when it comes to exclusives I believe Xbox has better exclusives. I'll admit the only decent Exclusive is Killzone 2.
Resistance 2 and MGS4 bore me.
It's not all about graphics, it's about the game play, I prefer Xbox 360 games over PS3 due to many reasons.
PS3 controller sucks,
PS3 Online sucks,
PS3 Trophies make little sense (Achievements for the win much easier to understand) btw, can compare trophies?
PS3 may have slightly better graphics, only slightly. But when it comes to exclusives I believe Xbox has better exclusives. I'll admit the only decent Exclusive is Killzone 2.
Resistance 2 and MGS4 bore me.
05/17/09 @ 03:32
Comment from: name [Visitor]
"Does this mean that Microsoft is not so quick to make outlandish claims"
OHHHHHHH PLEASE!
open your eyes and take a look at arron greenburg the ammount of tripe that comes out of that guys mouth allways suprises me.
or that crap M$ jappan spewed out a couple of days aggo.
i love it how sites are allways out to make sony look childish and M$ are the saints.
dw next time M$ is out there doing it again im gona remind them.
OHHHHHHH PLEASE!
open your eyes and take a look at arron greenburg the ammount of tripe that comes out of that guys mouth allways suprises me.
or that crap M$ jappan spewed out a couple of days aggo.
i love it how sites are allways out to make sony look childish and M$ are the saints.
dw next time M$ is out there doing it again im gona remind them.
05/17/09 @ 04:47
Comment from: name [Visitor]
what they said about crysis was the enemies remember what happend.
if they see you than you runn away and come back the game remembers what happend.
thats the only thing restricting consoles from hosting crysis, remove that easily done and crysis could work on consoles.
im thinking consoles will see a crysis game but not the 2 released on PC something different same graphics and physics effects but different.
but i hope they continue with PC games the pc is dying because all games are crappy ports of console games.
intell just released the I7s Nvidia ATI are releasing new GPU's soon.
but what the hell for? theres not 1 application that will use it.
a 2 year old game is more hardware hungry than a BRAND NEW game like fear 2 or GTAIV.
we need more pc games like crysis and MORE LOTS MORE instead of porting console games.
make use of the I7's power and the Nvidia 285GTX come on i dident spend 3k on a new comp so crysis could be the best game i can play.
whats the point of releasing new hardware is nothing is going to use it?
if they see you than you runn away and come back the game remembers what happend.
thats the only thing restricting consoles from hosting crysis, remove that easily done and crysis could work on consoles.
im thinking consoles will see a crysis game but not the 2 released on PC something different same graphics and physics effects but different.
but i hope they continue with PC games the pc is dying because all games are crappy ports of console games.
intell just released the I7s Nvidia ATI are releasing new GPU's soon.
but what the hell for? theres not 1 application that will use it.
a 2 year old game is more hardware hungry than a BRAND NEW game like fear 2 or GTAIV.
we need more pc games like crysis and MORE LOTS MORE instead of porting console games.
make use of the I7's power and the Nvidia 285GTX come on i dident spend 3k on a new comp so crysis could be the best game i can play.
whats the point of releasing new hardware is nothing is going to use it?
05/17/09 @ 04:55
Comment from: The Gaming Guru [Visitor]
Comment from: Mark Amsterdam [Visitor]
all you crazy 360 is the best than PS3
^^What an idiot. Don't be biased, be fair and non-judgemental.
Comment from: Thomas Brown [Visitor]
I own both PS3 + Xbox 360 (2 xbox's). Xbox may not have the best graphics, but it's hardly noticeable, if you have a good game with decent graphics, e.g. Gears of War 2 you won't care if MGS4 has better, cause it doesn't have the game play.
It's not all about graphics, it's about the game play, I prefer Xbox 360 games over PS3 due to many reasons.
PS3 controller sucks,
PS3 Online sucks,
PS3 Trophies make little sense (Achievements for the win much easier to understand) btw, can compare trophies?
PS3 may have slightly better graphics, only slightly. But when it comes to exclusives I believe Xbox has better exclusives. I'll admit the only decent Exclusive is Killzone 2.
Resistance 2 and MGS4 bore me.
^^Even bigger idiot. Let's get something straight:
*PS3 controller sucks? If it sucks then why would Sony keep the same design for three generations? You're probably so used to the 360 controller that you can't get used to the PS3 controller. Have patience and you will ease into it.
*PS3 online sucks? Sure, the community is larger in 360 but at least the PS3 is free! The 360 community has too many whiny kids which completely overshadows the PS3's community. Apart from that, they're both good. Don't bash what you don't fully understand.
*PS3 Trophies make little sense? That's the worst comment I've seen so far! Of course they make sense, the rank of the trophy (bronze, silver, gold and platinum) reflects the difficulty of the task and are therefore comparably. The trophies are a useful to compare as the platinum trophies can only be obtained once all over trophies are collected. Achievements are confusing to compare as its difficult to determine if a game has had all its achievements, well, achieved. By saying "I have 10,927 points" tells me nothing about what games you've gotten 100%. If you say "I've got 243 bronze, 71 silver, 29 gold and 6 platinum" then it will tell me that you've gotten 100% of the trophies in six games. Easy!
*I take it you haven't played many PS3 exclusives huh... What about Littlebigplanet? Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction? Valkyria Chronicles? Demon's Souls? Uncharted? I admit that the 360 exclusives are cool but there are more than enough PS3 exclusives to keep me happy.
*The PS3 is more powerful than the 360, thus it can process and render greater graphics. Perhaps you are not using an HDTV with HSMI cables? Use those, plus a 30"+ HDTV and you'll notice a difference.
Great article but... what will E3 2009 bring? As usual Sony will dominate I reckon, what with news of God of War III, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, that upcoming game from Konami (supposed to be Metal Gear Solid related I'm told) and more.
all you crazy 360 is the best than PS3
^^What an idiot. Don't be biased, be fair and non-judgemental.
Comment from: Thomas Brown [Visitor]
I own both PS3 + Xbox 360 (2 xbox's). Xbox may not have the best graphics, but it's hardly noticeable, if you have a good game with decent graphics, e.g. Gears of War 2 you won't care if MGS4 has better, cause it doesn't have the game play.
It's not all about graphics, it's about the game play, I prefer Xbox 360 games over PS3 due to many reasons.
PS3 controller sucks,
PS3 Online sucks,
PS3 Trophies make little sense (Achievements for the win much easier to understand) btw, can compare trophies?
PS3 may have slightly better graphics, only slightly. But when it comes to exclusives I believe Xbox has better exclusives. I'll admit the only decent Exclusive is Killzone 2.
Resistance 2 and MGS4 bore me.
^^Even bigger idiot. Let's get something straight:
*PS3 controller sucks? If it sucks then why would Sony keep the same design for three generations? You're probably so used to the 360 controller that you can't get used to the PS3 controller. Have patience and you will ease into it.
*PS3 online sucks? Sure, the community is larger in 360 but at least the PS3 is free! The 360 community has too many whiny kids which completely overshadows the PS3's community. Apart from that, they're both good. Don't bash what you don't fully understand.
*PS3 Trophies make little sense? That's the worst comment I've seen so far! Of course they make sense, the rank of the trophy (bronze, silver, gold and platinum) reflects the difficulty of the task and are therefore comparably. The trophies are a useful to compare as the platinum trophies can only be obtained once all over trophies are collected. Achievements are confusing to compare as its difficult to determine if a game has had all its achievements, well, achieved. By saying "I have 10,927 points" tells me nothing about what games you've gotten 100%. If you say "I've got 243 bronze, 71 silver, 29 gold and 6 platinum" then it will tell me that you've gotten 100% of the trophies in six games. Easy!
*I take it you haven't played many PS3 exclusives huh... What about Littlebigplanet? Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction? Valkyria Chronicles? Demon's Souls? Uncharted? I admit that the 360 exclusives are cool but there are more than enough PS3 exclusives to keep me happy.
*The PS3 is more powerful than the 360, thus it can process and render greater graphics. Perhaps you are not using an HDTV with HSMI cables? Use those, plus a 30"+ HDTV and you'll notice a difference.
Great article but... what will E3 2009 bring? As usual Sony will dominate I reckon, what with news of God of War III, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, that upcoming game from Konami (supposed to be Metal Gear Solid related I'm told) and more.
05/17/09 @ 09:52
Comment from: willy J [Visitor]
HDMI idiot
Too bad Final Fantasy XIIIs is coming to xbox 360 haha
05/17/09 @ 11:14
Comment from: leo_the_lion [Visitor]
right now l see a whole bunch of fanboyism in here with MS and sony fanboys bashing on each other and defending their thoughts blindly some times , some ppl even might come a little it strong and try to undermine the other console by saying all kinda things that might not even be true , just so they can make their console of choice look better . l personally own a ps3 and l'm almost done on my 360 layway lol , but my point is that we should all be happy with what we have and enjoy it and respect other ppl opinions too , l personally love and enjoy my ps3 a lot , yes it was a time ps3 didnt have a good lybrary at all whatsoever but its time has come , l might have different taste for gaming than other ppl but thats y there's games for all kind of gamers out there . Why should we pray that the competitor gets out of competition so we can reign supreme if its the competition that keeps thihs business alive ? look at the nfl games for example , madden had the nfl license for some many years now and kick the competition out of business , now EA can make the same game over and over again and not even enovate , just change the roster over the years and ppl still gonna buy it because theres no competition , therefore l recommend that yall stop the hating and go on uncharted waters and try some new games u wouldnt dare just because its not from your console , l bet u'll change your mind . The competition its what keeps this business alive and ensure to all gamers out there more innovation and gaming quality , and l do pray more extinct consoles such atari and sega jump into the the fray once again and bring us something new to the table . nuff said
05/17/09 @ 12:13
Comment from: Brad [Visitor]
Not trying to sound condescending, but anyone that believes ANY game for PS3 or 360 couldn't be done (and done virtually identicle with enough work) on the rival console is a pretty gullible person. Stop listening to 1st party devs marketing speak. They will say anything to sell their game. The simple fact that they make these comments already knowing that their game will never see the light of day on any other platform, except the one they are making the game for, should be a huge red flag to anyone with common sense.
05/17/09 @ 12:35
Comment from: PsychoSonic [Visitor]
@ Fred
*God of war is going to run at native 1080p not upscaled
@ willy J
*your the idiot, it was obviously a typo, and he said final fantasy versus XIII not final fantasy XIII its a completely different game, with different characters, and a different story that IS a PS3 exclusive you retard..check your own pathetic self before striking out at others
Final Fantasy 13 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2nU4ksCklg
Final Fantasy Versus 13 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cWU-M9EpEg
*God of war is going to run at native 1080p not upscaled
@ willy J
*your the idiot, it was obviously a typo, and he said final fantasy versus XIII not final fantasy XIII its a completely different game, with different characters, and a different story that IS a PS3 exclusive you retard..check your own pathetic self before striking out at others
Final Fantasy 13 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2nU4ksCklg
Final Fantasy Versus 13 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cWU-M9EpEg
05/17/09 @ 16:02
Comment from: Phoshi [Visitor]
CE3 isn't CE2, Crysis on high could not be done on Consoles, they don't have the brute force. A stripped down version, sure, but that's not what saying it won't run means.
I don't know why anybody sees saying Crysis, a game not designed to be maxxed out on current generation PCs, can't be done on consoles is a slight against them. Console Hardware doesn't change, PC hardware is constantly updated, so obviously it can do things consoles can't.
And the Cell processor is good at parallel processing, that doesn't really have that many applications in graphics. It can do great AI and Physics, doesn't say much about the Graphics, which it still GPU bound.
I don't know why anybody sees saying Crysis, a game not designed to be maxxed out on current generation PCs, can't be done on consoles is a slight against them. Console Hardware doesn't change, PC hardware is constantly updated, so obviously it can do things consoles can't.
And the Cell processor is good at parallel processing, that doesn't really have that many applications in graphics. It can do great AI and Physics, doesn't say much about the Graphics, which it still GPU bound.
05/17/09 @ 16:20
Well atleast what your saying is for the most part true, I don't think that Halo 3 will be...right on the ps3. I mean yea the ps3 could handle it as halo 3 isnt the most beautiful girl in the world, but the experience would be totally different. As for ME and GeOW, they could run on ps3 due to UE
08/17/09 @ 12:31
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